Friday, December 4, 2015

# 171 Cambodian judiciary. Has much changed in the last 20 years?


I received the following from an anonymous source. It is much too long to publish as a comment, but worth publishing in its entirety, I think, for reasons that will become apparent:

APLE's Business model is nothing new, nor is Licadho's part in that game. Nothing has changed in APLE's and the CWCCs Business Model and the Judges are only too happy to comply.

It's July 1995:

Dr.Gavin Scott a highly professional specialist on tropical diseases, and gay, was targeted by LICADHO, APLE's closest business partner:

Lawyer hits out at Scott case "farce"

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Laura Summers    

7/18/95

The following article is posted in seasia-l and in soc.culture.cambodia
with the permission of Michael Hayes, Publisher and Editor-in-Chief of the
Phnom Penh Post and with the consent of the author.

[NOTE:  The reference in the article to a decision ultimately being taken in high places is an allusion to statements made about the Scott case on July 4th by First Prime Minister Ranariddh.  Ranariddh said that if the charges against Scott were "valid", then "it's a severe offence against our nation and...we absolutely do not allow our Kingdom of Cambodia to become a sex (tourist destination".  Ranariddh also said that if Scott was prosecuted, "the prosecution should serve as an example".  In a separate statement, the Ministry of Interior revealed that Licadho--the Cambodian League for the Defence and Promotion of Human Rights--acting on behalf of the children involved, filed the complaints against Scott. --ljs]


Phnom Penh Post, July 14 - 27, 1995
Headline:  Lawyer hits out at Scott case "farce"

Byline: Jason Barber

All rights:  Jason Barber

A foreign lawyer trying to represent Gavin Scott says the British doctor's
prosecution has become a "political tug of war" with little prospect of a
fair trial.  "I'm not sure I'm prepared to legitimize what is a farce by
trying to give this guy a defense," said Robert Carlin on July 10, after
repeatedly being denied official approval to represent Scott.

At press time, Scott--charged with raping boys--had been in T3 Prison for three weeks without a defender to represent him.

Carlin said Khmer defenders were "running like mice before a tomcat" from taking Scott's case, but he doubted whether any lawyer would be able to do much anyway.

"I don't know that if Jesus Christ were his lawyer, it would change the outcome.  That doesn't mean that he is going to lose, but that the final decision will be made from high up.  I don't want to be the blush on the rotten apple," said Carlin, who was debating whether to drop the case.

Carlin alleged that Scott had consistently been denied access to a lawyer--violating his rights under Untac law--in police custody and later in prison.  He said that was enough to warrant Scott's immediate release from prison under the law--but Scott had no lawyer to apply for his release.
       
Carlin said he had three times asked the Phnom Penh Municipal Court for approval to jointly represent Scott with a Khmer defender but had been rebuffed.  He said he had twice been turned away from T3 Prison when trying to see Scott.  He had got inside, with other visitors to Scott, on two occasions.
       
These were not "lawyer-client" private meetings because other people had been present.
       
The only other time he saw Scott was when the doctor first appeared in court on June 23, and was charged with rape.  The charge followed a complaint to police--relating to child prostitution, not rape--by NGOs which had testimonies from five children, aged 14 and 15, against him.
       
Whether Carlin can represent Scott is unclear.  A recent law bars foreigners from representing criminal defendants, though they can advise Khmer lawyers.  Carlin, an English-born former US public defender who arrived in Cambodia a month ago, was asked by a friend of Scott to represent the doctor.  He has been trying, unsuccessfully, to find a Khmer defender to help represent Scott.
       
Both the Cambodian Defenders Project (CDP) and the Cambodian Defenders Association (CADEAS) have refused his requests for help.  CDP interim director Karen Tse told the POST that its refusal related to an apparent conflict of interest it had because of contact with the human rights group Licadho--one of the NGOs which laid the Scott complaint.
       
"It appears a conflict of interest may have been created at the onset of the case," Tse said.  "Licadho...requested from a previous CDP interim director that one of our defenders be presently reviewing these events in order to determine whether the CDP is precluded from representing Dr Scott in this matter."
       
A CADEAS spokesman, meanwhile, told the POST that his staff did not have the legal experience and English language proficiency needed to take on Scott's case.  Carlin had asked the British Embassy to help ensure Scott had a lawyer.  He said he did not know what help would usually be given in such cases, but "frankly, their level of aggression and approach to this is sorely lacking."
       
He had also unsuccessfully approached the United Nations Center for Human Rights.
       
Carlin was most critical of Lichado, saying:  "I think that someone needs to check their mandate.  I have a huge problem with human rights groups, both overtly and covertly, abrogating this guy's rights.  It's no secret that the police were ready to release Dr. Scott for lack of evidence until someone from Licadho jumped up and down and that decision was miraculously revoked.  I find that bitterly ironic...This guy has rights too, and the ends do not justify the means."
       
He objected to Licadho having housed three of the child complainants against Scott, saying that allowed the opportunity for "manipulation" of them.  He alleged one of the children had boasted to an employee of Scott's about how he was being housed and well-fed by Licadho.

"When you're dealing with a street kid, giving them a bed in a nice air-conditioned room--that could be a pretty good incentive [to make allegations]."  Carlin said the charge of rape against Scott was "ludicrous."
       
Told that the initial complaint against Scott related to paying underage children for sex, not rape, he said:  "I don't know the ages of these kids or how old they look.  I cannot responsibly answer that question."  He said that while NGOs had "made their point" about pedophilia in Cambodia, Scott had been "hung out to dry because he is also a soft target."
       
"I think that nobody, including Dr Scott, would deny there is a [pedophile] problem but he's not the problem.  It doesn't make any sense to make a scapegoat of someone...while the people who are the real problem are still walking around."
       
Licadho spokeswoman Naly Pilorge said Scott was "absolutely entitled" to a defense and she had believed that he had a Khmer defender "from day one."  She later said that Phnom Penh Court had confirmed that Scott had a defender.  That defender, however, told the POST he was not representing Scott and the British Embassy knew that.  Pilorge said Licadho's mandate included ensuring all people--defendents and
victims--have access to legal representation.  But in Scott's case, Licadho would have a conflict of interest if it interfered with the appointment of a defender for him.
       
On the issue of the police almost releasing Scott, she said Licadho had believed the court was in the best position to assess the evidence.  It had been the court's decision to charge and detain Scott.  Pilorge said Licadho had housed three of the five complainants at its offices, until other NGOs had arranged to accommodate them.
       
"The first priority had to be protecting the children, which is different than  protecting adults. [As published. --ljs]   We couldn't just send them back on the streets.  Attempts were made to get government involvement in caring for these children.  Now other NGOs are doing that. We don't even know where the children are."
       
The children had been given no money, only a room to sleep in, food and basic clothes.  Licadho would never offer any inducement of any kind to anyone to give false information, she said.
       
"There is an implication that because they are Khmer and they are street children these children are not to be believed.  These are not kids who are comfortable.  These are abused kids who are scared and don't know what's going to happen to them.  We have seen the evidence; we believe the children and the courts should be left to give him a fair trial."

NOTE: Gavin Scott was found to be not guilty.

COMING UP:

Gavin Scott’s thoughts about the ‘age of consent’




12 comments:

  1. Seems that most of this was also a "stitch up", but unlike David, he was given a trial, though the attorney issue is not clear. In David's case there has been no fair trial and only James advocating for one. If David is able to get a trial, he too will be found NOT GUILTY!

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  2. No offence, Ricketson, but boasting that this catastrophe of a site gets 450 page views a day is ridiculous. That is pathetic coverage by any standards, especially considering most of your visitors will comprise you, your well-wishers and the detractors who come just to see what nonsense is being spewed today.

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    1. I think great offence was intended you lying POS Anonymous 6:37!!

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    2. Re:1995 and today

      The difference between 1995 and today is that back then there were a handfull of NGOS and now we have more than 5000 !!! registered (according to the Cambodian Gov.) and perhaps an equally large number of "Unregistered NGO" in Cambodia.

      The NGO Pest is everywhere.  What's interesting from the point of view of Kampot is that while NGOS and Christians, mostly evangelical missionaries of all colors mainly from the US, Canada and Australia, are on the rise here, the same goes for the number of drug addicts running restaurants, resorts and guesthouses. Most are moving here from Sihanoukville.

      The police know it, the restaurant and business owners know it but..... this is Cambodia : nothing happens. !!

      On the subject of the age of consent, it was raised to 18 years after enormous pressure by the UN and the NGO crowd, especially the Christians. Compare this with any western country !

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    3. AGE OF CONSENT

      Some info on the age of Consent in Cambodia and some history on Britain

      http://data.un.org/Data.aspx?d=GenderStat&f=inID%3a19

      Cambodia Female 2006 UNDAW_CEDAW Country Reports_Aug2007 Years 18
      Cambodia Male 2006 UNDAW_CEDAW Country Reports_Aug2007 Years 20


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      Britain - a former sex tourist heaven

      http://www.christian.org.uk/wp-content/downloads/aoc_warning.pdf

      It is almost unbelievable that the UK was once a haven for European
      sex tourists, home to a thriving trade in child prostitutes comparable to
      the notorious industries of modern-day Thailand or Cambodia.
      Yet nineteenth century Christian campaigner Josephine Butler
      would often shrink apologetically from discussing the full horror of
      child prostitution as “too painful to dwell upon”. Josephine's work
      against the sex trade led to over 900 public meetings and 17,000
      petitions attracting millions of signatures.
      2
      She asked, “shall the same
      country which paid its millions for the abolition of negro slavery now
      pay its millions for the establishment of white slavery within its own
      bosom?”
      3
      Josephine’s father was a close ally in William Wilberforce’s
      campaign to end slavery, and in turn she devoted much of her life to
      bringing about legislative change to protect young girls from sexual
      exploitation.
      That change came as the age of consent was raised to 16 in 1885,
      and it is still the same age today.

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      More on legal age in Cambodia\

      The Cambodian Civil Code, introduced in 2011, says neither “men nor women may marry until they have reached the age of 18. However, if one of the parties has attained the age of majority and the other party is a minor, at least 16 years of age, the parties may marry with the consent of the parental power holders or guardian of the minor.”



      But legal expert Sok Sam Oeun said “very few people” know about this rule.

      http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/774634-a-brides-age-troubles-village-in-cambodia/

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    4. Dear Anonymous 6.17

      Not boasting; just stating a fact.

      Even if there are only a few dozen readers who are really paying attention, that's a few who now know more than they did a year ago. They know, for instance, that:

      The Foreign & Commonwealth Office (FCO)lied about the whereabouts and fate of Mr Fletcher's passport.

      The FCO conspired to pervert the course of justice by destroying Mr Fletcher's passport.

      When Mr Fletcher left Cambodia in June 2010 Thierry Darnaudet and Samleang Seila had no evidence at all that Mr Fletcher had either raped Yang Dany or been grooming young girls.

      Samleang Seila and APLE do not believe that Mr Fletvher raped Yang Dany but believe that he deserves to spend 10 years in jail for having failed to get some paperwork to the Phnom Penh Municipal Court on time.

      Scott Neeson plays fast and loose with the truth.

      Naly Pilorge has arrived at 'other findings' in relation to Mr Fletcher's rape charges but will not share her 'findings; with anyone - not even with the police or the courts.

      And so it goes.

      It is clear, from the pattern of viewing, that some readers do go back to check old blog entries. And they will continue to do so.

      Whether this blog will have any impact at all on Mr Fletcher's fate remains to be seen. However, I think that there will be quite a few readers of it who will, at the very least, be asking questions about APLE and the Cambodian Children's Fund. I do not expect anyone to automatically believe anything I publish here but hope that questions are asked; doubts raised.

      20 years of experience has made it clear to me that organisations such as APLE and Cambodian Children's Fund (along with most NGOs) are subject to no scrutiny at all,leaving the field open to scamsters to exploit the very poor and powerless people they are, according to their websites, their PR literature and Facebook pages, here to help.

      If there is any one change that would improve matters it is that responsible NGOs form an alliance and do whatever they can to make their fellow NGOs accountable and transparent. Until something along these lines happens all 'good' NGOs will be tainted with the bad reputations that accrue to 'bad' NGOs.

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  3. Naly Pilorge has always been very selective in whose human rights she will defend. Western men have no rights at all ("All men are rapists") but she defends the right of her evangelical Christian friends to steal chilrden from their families and force feed the bible to them.

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    1. Sounds like a very dangerous woman!!

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    2. Licadho - always looking for headlines in the intl. press

      What a Headline: Prison Watchdog (Licadho) cancels annual visit to Prison.

      Sorn Keo, a spokesman for the GDP, said that the department had not banned the rights group from human rights day activities in prisons. Rather, the group had canceled the visits after his department placed restrictions on the planned entertainment.


      “We allow them to provide small packages of extra food, but we don’t know why they (Licadho) canceled their activity,” he said. “We only ban them from playing games in the prison.”

      But playing games is what Licadho's Naly Pilorge has been done for the past 20 years.

      http://www.khmertimeskh.com/news/18410/prison-watchdog-cancels-annual-visit/

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  4. I think you need to do a little research. You have a few factual errors here, such as him being found not guilty. And though the article didn't explicitly say APLE was involved, it seem to imply it in the beginning. APLE didn't exist at the time. It was Krousar Thmei that got him.

    As a lovely example of the police attitude at the time, one police spokesman was quoted in the Post saying that the allegations didn't make sense because "why would he take little boys when their are so many little girls available."

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  5. The following has been posted three times now but disappeared very soon. It has not been relegated to spam. This happens from time to time for reasons that are a mystery to me!

    As far as I can tell Licadho only monitors and writes press releases/reports and doesn't go to court for any case. (I may be wrong). This is what I found on their website:

    http://www.licadho-cambodia.org/

    Re: NGO Law

    www.licadho-cambodia.org/pressrelease.php?perm=390

    Re: CNRP

    http://www.licadho-cambodia.org/pressrelease.php?perm=389

    Only one of the nine defense lawyers was present for today’s hearing after the eight other lawyers allegedly boycotted the trial. When judges unexpectedly called for closing arguments, the defendants requested a delay until their lawyers could attend. The judges denied the request and deliberated for just 15 minutes before returning with the verdicts and sentences. As they began to deliberate, police and military police entered the courtroom and the road outside the courtroom was simultaneously blocked.

    ‘Police entered the courtroom as soon as the judges went to deliberate the verdict. This makes it clear that this was a show trial with a predetermined ending, apparently set up only to intimidate the CNRP following this weekend’s events in Svay Rieng,’ said Naly Pilorge, Director of LICADHO. ‘It is no coincidence that two of the three men sentenced to a ludicrous 20 years were present in Svay Rieng during the stand-off.’

    Licadho Donors:

    not really transparent but,

    "Thank you...

    We would like to thank our donors for their on-going support for LICADHO's work. It is thanks to their support that we have been able to provide vital human rights services and information to the Cambodian public, especially vulnerable groups such as victims, women and children.

    We sincerely hope to continue working with you in this endeavor to achieve an environment conductive to the promotion of human rights in Cambodia.

    Signature
    Dr. Kek Galabru
    President, LICADHO
    Gold Donors
    US$5,000 and more
    ACCT (Agence de Cooperation Culturelle et Technique)
    Action Aid International-Cambodia
    American Red Cross
    Amnesty International
    Canada Fund
    CRS (Catholic Relief Services)
    CVT (Center for Victims of Torture)
    Dan Church Aid
    Danida
    Diakonia
    Dr. Kek Galabru
    Embassy of Australia
    Embassy of Belgium
    Embassy of Finland
    Embassy of Germany
    Embassy of the Netherlands
    Embassy of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta
    Embassy of United Kingdom
    European Union
    EWMI (East-West Management Institute, Inc.)
    FIDH
    Fondation Suisse de Repris de Justesse
    Forum Syd
    German Agro Action
    Henry Luce Foundation
    ICCO
    ICRT
    IJM (International Justice Mission)
    ILO
    International Federation for Human Rights
    Kinderen In De Knel
    NORAD
    NOVIB
    NZAID
    Oxfam
    Private Donors
    SEAFILD
    SKN/Stamps
    Soroptimist International of Yamagata
    Taksvarkki
    The Asia Foundation
    The Asia Foundation/USAID
    UNCOHCHR
    UQAM/CIDA
    WFP (World Food Program)
    Silver Donors
    US$500 to US$5,000
    CAMSET II
    CWS (Church World Services)
    GTZ
    H.M. Norodom Sihanouk
    JRS
    Liliane Foundation (Stichting Liliane Fonds)
    LWS (Lutheran World Services)
    Private Donors
    Save the Children (UK)
    UNICEF
    WVI-Cambodia
    Bronze Donors
    US$1 to US$500
    Private Donors
    The Association of the Blind in Cambodia

    http://www.licadho-cambodia.org/donors.php"

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  6. Licadho the Hypocrite - no mercy for everyone but for some, only.

    This is a classic case of where the "Human Rights Organisation - Licadho" really stands. In case of a vietnamese woman that was convicted for running a prostitution ring in 2009 and was suffering breast cancer while in jail, died recently although the King asked to pardon and release her so she could spend the remaining time with her family. The process was tied up in red tape and the woman had to die in jail.

    In other cases, namely of Foreigners in Jail Licadho prefers not to comment or show any support at all. David Fletcher is one such case, Bart Lauwaert who died in jail, another. Licadho itself is part of a decade old witch hunt against western men which is done in close cooperation with Cambodia's most controversial anti pedophile Organisation, funded by french Backpacker Thierry Darnaudet, APLE.

    http://www.khmertimeskh.com/news/18482/inmate-died-too-soon-for-amnesty/

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